Lisa Messenger is the founder and CEO of Collective Hub, an inspiring multimedia platform that exists to help people unleash their full potential.

Between 2013 and 2017, Collective Hub grew its print magazine from scratch to 50+ issues that were distributed in 37 countries.

But, as a creative entrepreneur, in recent times Lisa has had to make some big decisions about Collective Hub's future that led to a pivot and, ultimately, a much smaller team.

Lisa's 2018 book Risk and Resilience details blow-by-blow her experience in scaling down her offline magazine business after realising it had grown too quickly and unsustainably.

This interview covers Lisa's growth story as well as her scaling-down experience.

Learning from other leaders' challenges can yield the greatest insights, and there's plenty of gold in this episode.

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