Verne Harnish is an leader, entrepreneur, community builder, and best-selling author.

He is founder of the world-renowned Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO) and chaired for 15 years EO's premier CEO program, the 'Birthing of Giants', held at MIT.

He is also the founder and CEO of Gazelles, a global executive education and coaching company with hundreds of partners on six continents.

Verne has spent more than 30 years educating entrepreneurial teams. He's the author of Scaling Up, Mastering the Rockefeller Habits and, along with the editors of Fortune, authored The Greatest Business Decisions of All Time, for which Jim Collins wrote the foreword.

Verne chairs annual Growth Summits in North America, Europe, and Asia and continues to teach in the MIT-based executive program he founded.

In this episode of THINK BIG ACT SMALL, we discuss how routine can set you free, the interaction between empathy and assertiveness for leaders, the importance of 'keeping it real', and Verne's 'care more' approach.